Chatter on the Yahoo tugboat group indicates interest in this vessel, Grouper. I took this foto six weeks ago at Erie Canal Lock 28B in Newark, less than five miles from where I grew up.
My sister-in-law Nancy took this foto yesterday. Thanks Nancy! Six weeks changes a lot.
What I’ve learned is that it’s 1912 vintage built by Charles Dimmer in Cleveland, Ohio. Other vitals include 73′ x 18′. And according to Carl Wayne’s fantastic database, Grouper’s engine generates 300 hp. but I’m guessing that was the original engine. Was that steam?
Formerly, it operated as Alaska for Florida Marine Terminal.
A power cord snaked into the skylight,
and still does, although the icicles have turned back into canal water.
But I can find nothing about Charles Dimmer or the Florida Marine Terminal. And I’m guessing that when I next get up to Newark in summer, Grouper will be gone, like the ice. Anyone know about modifications and dates and current engine? I’m sure the stack is not original.
When I was a kid and I’d see the Canal, I perceived of it as the biggest ditch around, a place to catch catfish. And since we weren’t a boat family, taking a rowboat or canoe across was just a fantasy. I’d no sense of the Canal, then called the Barge Canal, as a conduit to the sixth boro–or Canada, the Midwest. I paid more attention to train crews on the New York Central than crews on canal boats. If I’d have run away in those years, jumping from a low bridge onto a barge would not have been the way. I certainly had no idea that through these waters in 1960, 3.5 million tons of cargo (mostly fuel and grain) was shipped. See this 1961 “canal use” state report. Here’s the entire report. Oh the sights I missed. Who knows how my life would be different if tugs had gotten my attention then?
Note: Credit for the springtime fotos goes to Nancy Van Dorp.
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June 17, 2009 at 2:41 pm
tom garrigan
I grew up with the “Grouper”, in fact had a chance to drive it from Manitowoc, WI to Sheboygan, WI. At that time the Grouper was known as the tug “Green Bay.” It was associated with the Reiss Boat Co. & worked the harbors of Manitowoc, Green Bay, Sheboygan, & Kewaunee in assisting the larger coal carriers that often came into those WI ports. The Green Bay was known as a “G” tug by its design. I really missed this boat & didn’t know what happened to her myself until somehow I found out that she was relegated to the Erie Canal service & renamed. I would love to have a piece of her whenever she gets scrapped, which I suspect may happen in the near future.
Tom Garrigan, Rhinelander,WI
July 1, 2009 at 1:27 pm
jeff
look on youtube my grandfather worked on this tug Green Bay & Tug Reiss Look ON YouTubefor Videos I made with the pic i got from my dad my .
July 1, 2009 at 10:04 pm
tugster
here’s the link for grouper with good paint and at work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27rd-AF4mRg thanks jeff
July 2, 2009 at 4:27 pm
jeff
A 6 cyl -Kahlenberg, 750 hp put in 1957. still in her from what i know, I got pics from 2001 with fresh paint on her . on you tube. My grandfather worked on the tug and tug Reiss from 1945-1965. sorry to see it the way it does, brings back a lot of memories when she was better shape. I’ll Like to Have the HORN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rIbVvY5Cs
July 2, 2009 at 10:18 pm
tugster
i saw grouper aka green bay in newark (lock 28 of the canal) about a month ago. she continues to deteriorate; maybe next week i’ll put up some pix i took there in late may 2009. it’s tragic to witness the deterioration and be powerless to intervene!!
July 23, 2009 at 3:13 pm
jeff
Tugster, can i copy pics I’ll give you credit for them? I wanna add them to my Video.
July 23, 2009 at 3:18 pm
tugster
jeff- send me a note to my email with your email and i’ve got more if you want. of course, you may use what is here. the most recent ones i took six weeks ago. email is parrotlect at gmail dot com . . . you know.
July 25, 2009 at 10:29 am
Dave
This ad has been on Scruton for a long time.
http://www.scrutonmarine.com/T2266.htm
November 15, 2009 at 6:26 am
tugster
as of Nov 7, 2009, i saw tug grouper just east of lock 28B (newark). early next week i will put up a foto i took then.
November 22, 2009 at 9:54 pm
jon
I woud love to see some one restore this old girl. Not just cut the horns off. My wife painted her a few years ago when she was tied up at the Lyons dry dock. Unfortunatly, they moved her down to Newark in a remote spot and the town thugs as well as the elements have take their toll. She is listed for sale on line for $26,ooo Any takers?
November 22, 2009 at 9:58 pm
jon
http://www.scrutonmarine.com/Tugs.htm
List #2266
November 22, 2009 at 10:45 pm
jon
Tug was named “Gary” & then later renamed “Green Bay” before “Grouper”.
http://www.northeasternmaritime.org/Gillmore.shtml
November 29, 2009 at 4:30 am
jeff
November 29, 2009 at 9:03 am
tugster
jeff . . . thanks for sending this along. i’ll highlight it on a post soon.
November 30, 2009 at 1:23 am
jeff
sorry it’s big.I was just going to post a link. The Captain who worked on the tug Reiss & GreenBay, still is alive and still works as tug captain he’s 89 yrs old!
September 21, 2015 at 5:18 pm
Joe Sacotte
Jeff,
I believe my Grandfather Glen Bergerson was the Captain of the Reiss from about 1938 til he retired in 1962. He passed away in 1967. If you have any information about the Tug I’d like to know.
Joe Sacotte
Seattle, WA
December 8, 2009 at 10:37 pm
Walt Mathers
I’ve been following this thread and wanted to say that this tug’s lines closely those of the tugs that were used by both the Union and Confederate forces during the early 1860’s. If she were given a tall skinny funnel and some wooden side fenders, faux wooden trim around her wheelhouse and about her deckhouse she would be ready to mount a boat howitzer on her bow and have longboats full of re-enactors in tow astern.
Did I mention that the 150th commemorative anniversary series of the War of 1861 is just around the corner? Anyone know where to get a white smoke generator?
December 17, 2009 at 9:37 pm
jon
Registry and Rig Information
Vessel NameGARY
NationalityU.S. Official Number210878
RigTug
Dimensions and Tonnage
Vessel Length:73.33 feet.Gross Tonnage:71.00
Vessel Width:18.50 feetNet Tonnage:36.00
Vessel Depth:10.16 feetHull Material:Steel
Masts: Hull Number:00021
Item Number: 002247
Image Size: 55717 bytes
Vessel History
Builder Great Lakes Towing Co. Cleveland, OH
1912
Ownership ChangesDateRegistryOfficial #
Dunham Towing & Wrecking Co. (Great Lakes Towing
Co.-Cleveland, OH).
Chicago, IL U.S. 1912- 1934 U.S. 210878
C. Reiss Coal Co.
Sheboygan, WI U.S. 1934 U.S. 210878
Florida Marine Terminal, Inc.
Miami, FL U.S. U.S. 210878
Vessel Name ChangesDateRegistryOfficial #
GREEN BAY 1934- 1981 U.S. 210878
ALASKA 1990- 1998 U.S. 210878
ONEIDA 1981- 1987 U.S. 210878
IROQUOIS 1987- 1990 U.S. 210878
GROUPER 1998 U.S. 210878
RebuildsRepowered in 1957.
HistoryCompleted in November, 1912.
DispositionNo Disposition Information Available
December 17, 2009 at 10:59 pm
tugster
jon–thanks bunches for your info. i DO hope grouper gets saved!
February 11, 2010 at 9:36 pm
jake
shes gone.. idk where she went but shes gone. sad.. i was aboard her a few times.. i wish i could have saved her… id like to find out where she went
February 11, 2010 at 11:50 pm
tugster
jake- relax. i think she is saved. i’m headed up there this weekend, but my understanding is that she’s on her way to detroit; she may have been hauled in lyons as a prep for the journey to the west. i’ll let you know.
February 14, 2010 at 4:29 pm
jon
I sure hope the old G Tug is going to a good home. Maybe I’ll call a friend (a lockmaster ) and ask. She was included in the book ” Tug boats of the Great Lakes” when she was the regained by the Towing Company and called Alaska. She was sold of lake in a buy out with two other tugs but left behind (2000) when the new owners realized she was more of an antique than a commercialy viable tug. The name “Grouper” was given later. When Great Lakes first had her she was the “Gary” Then Riess Coal had her as the “Greenbay” with white pilot house. Great Lakes reaquired her , repainted the top green & caled her “Alaska”. The only city class tug to ever hold a State name. I think the name “Grouper” is a silly name for this old lake tug. I hope she is really saved as she is just shy of 100 years old and gets the name “Gary” or “Greenbay” back 🙂
February 14, 2010 at 4:39 pm
tugster
i’m on the road, but i saw grouper this morning, got pix, and will post in the next few days.
February 15, 2010 at 6:03 pm
jon
Yep, saw her there today too. Hasn’t moved. Didn’t think she could have gone too far as the Erie Canal was closed when I saw her in November. Is there a rumor of her going to Detroit?
February 15, 2010 at 6:07 pm
tugster
detroit area. did you notice though that after several locations all pointed east, she’s now pointed west!! from the lock toward downtown newark, palmyra, and points west. fotos maybe tomorrow.
February 15, 2010 at 6:31 pm
jon
She has been removed fron Scronton’s for sale list. I have been watching her since my wife completed an oil painting of a photo I had taken in 2001 or 2002? At that time she was at the dry dock. I saw what the vandals had done in Newark and was saddened. Returning from travels outside the US in 2009 I drove over to Newark (I’m from Walworth) and found her turned around right next to the lock. I’m guessing they moved her due to the vandalism. Please keep me posted as I would be elated to see her saved, & incredibly saddened to see her go the way of so many of her kind. I have taken some pictures too today. She does not seem completely abandoned, someone has been pumping out the bildge.
February 20, 2010 at 11:04 pm
jeff
Tugster, can you let me know where she go’s.
March 28, 2010 at 12:10 pm
tom garrigan
Tugster,
I’d love to have any photos/YouTube downloads for the tug GROUPER/GREEN BAY. I’ve tried to open the YouTube sites listed, but the videos have been removed. If these could be forwarded to my e-mail, I’d appreciate it greatly. My post is listed as to my connection with this boat, in fact, I was in Manitowoc over the weekend & could still see her working the harbor!!
Thanks,
Tommy G
April 1, 2010 at 8:19 pm
jeff
Tom ihave a new acount on you just look for tug green bay
April 1, 2010 at 8:37 pm
Jeff
Tom I reupload the video there are a few, if you want pictures just look for tug GreenBay, yahoo,google.Click on Images for pictures click on the picture,Them right click and save as picture on your computer. that’s it you now got the picture.
October 1, 2010 at 11:45 am
jake
grouper sold and is going to be under tow to algonac mi in the next week or so. shes being “saved”
October 1, 2010 at 12:29 pm
tugster
jake–thanks. i’d love to see pics from along the way … if at all possible.
November 30, 2010 at 10:23 am
Jon
This tug is now tied up on the West side of the Lyon’s Dry Dock (Nov 2010). As the Canal is closed for the season, if she is to be moved, it will not be untill the 2011 season of the Erie Canal.
November 30, 2010 at 2:26 pm
Mike Trusty
Paddle to the Sea and Tree in the Trail my favorite books as a 2nd grader in 1949 and still two of my favorites. I live in New Mexico but we have a “camp” on a lake in Maine where we spend some summertime near the water. Glad to have found your blog, I am especially fond of tugboats also.
Best regards,
Mike Trusty
March 19, 2011 at 8:37 pm
jeff
Grouper Tug and engine Room http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znFY-tfJtxw
April 5, 2011 at 5:58 pm
tom garrigan
Jeff: Great video!!! Thanks so much for making it available. I also just saw Angela’s post re: having bought the tug & her plans to renovate! How outstanding!! Thanks Angela, for saving this Great Lakes icon!
March 19, 2011 at 8:57 pm
jeff
Tug is listed on ebay for sale .
April 3, 2011 at 1:44 pm
Angela Baker
Just won the ebay auction this morning…she’s a beauty and will be restored hopefully by her centenial birthday, next summer. My husband did a search and this post is what he found…what a treasure.
Many thanks to everyone’s input!
The seller didn’t know much and I would love to know of the original color(s). I’m going to do more research, but if anyone has a clue, would love to know. Also, is it bad “luck” to restore her name to the original “Green Bay”?
Thanks again, everyone!
April 3, 2011 at 2:45 pm
tugster
hi angela– where are you doing the restoration?
April 5, 2011 at 6:02 pm
tom garrigan
This boat looked great in her original “Green Bay” green, white, & black colors. Most other tugs were the standard red & black; or yellow & black. I’ve never heard that it was bad luck to re-name a vessel by it’s previous name; certainly there are alot of boats/ships that were named after previous ships & that never seemed to be a bad omen…except for Titanic!!
April 5, 2011 at 11:25 pm
alan baker
Oh, thanks so much! My husband figured the green part out, but I knew it had to be white and black, too. I’ve been thinking about a cartoon theme, though. I know it sounds odd, but it would be a red top and bright royal blue bottom, and it would look like a toy with a black bumper. This is very different than my style as I would simply go with white, black and a lot of brass bling, but this was a gift from my husband to our daughter, who is just four. So, we’ll see… And as far the name goes…it will be a surprise. Hey, did you get to meet G’s sister, Reiss?
Thank you for sharing.
Angela
April 16, 2011 at 3:42 pm
jeff
Hi Angela Baker ,A great piece of history.Tug green bay .I got video on you tube. I sure would like to see the tug again . It’s been such a long time since I last seen her in 1978 when she left green bay, I should would like a tour on her one day, that would be great. I actually miss the horn on her , I can remember hearing the horn at night when I was kid, It would wake me up , I lived 6 blocks away from the fox river. Does it still have the kahlenberg horn? The original colors were BLACK,RED, GREEN, WHITE ,YA!! same as Her sister tug the Reiss. A Great Piece Of History !My Congratulations to you ! I hope all go’s well on the restoration ! Jeff
April 3, 2011 at 3:54 pm
alan baker
hi tugster- just noticed the sale yesterday and bought her this morning. so i have not made arangements. hopefully somewhere close. i am currently looking for someplace to keep her. any ideas? one of the post here said that it is located across from the lyons dry dock. do you know if this may be a possibilty? thank you for any info or suggestions.
April 6, 2011 at 2:06 am
David HIndin
Completed auction, if you have an ebay account
1912 great lakes towing tug
Item number: 230602026722
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230602026722
April 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm
Angela
Hy tugster, you should have a pole for us to vote on what colors it should be and another for the name…no raffle:D just feedback. What do you think, everyone?
Thanks for sharing.
April 6, 2011 at 10:11 pm
tugster
angela– give me a few days to get it together. it sounds like fun . . . will you go along with the “people’s choice” ?
April 17, 2011 at 9:26 am
Jon
I would like to send you all the info I have on this tug , but could not figure how to attach. The tug is also featured in the book “TUG BOATS OF THE GREAT LAKES” by Franz A. VonRiedel
April 7, 2011 at 4:24 am
David Hindin
More on the E6 Kahlenberg diesel engine:
http://gasengine.farmcollector.com/Gas-Engines/Exhibit-To-Run-On-Diesel.aspx
My impression is that only four were built.
http://www.lakesuperior.com/online/206/206atb.html
April 8, 2011 at 2:20 pm
alan
David;Personal thanks for the links on the E6 kahlenberg diesel engine. It would be amazing if this engine could be restored to a dependable condition. The eBay post said that the last time this engine ran she ran good , and that she had been winterized. In the past I have had personal experience that such statements have been true. Hopefully this is the case. This summer I plan on spending some time testing those statements to figure out the fate of this amazing engine. Having said all this, I believe that if the winterization has not failed, and that the statements are true? She can be. Thanks again.
April 8, 2011 at 7:22 pm
David Hindin
Alan, a fitting milestone for this amazing thread will be a video of the E6 in operation with her unique sound from the past. Tugster, the seeds you planted three years ago bear fruit…
April 8, 2011 at 11:20 pm
tugster
david and all who’ve followed the saga of grouper . . . thank you for your help. i’ve enjoyed the ride so far and can’t wait to get around the next bend, and the next . . . .
April 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm
billy
alan I was looking at the grouper myself and did find out a lot of information about the canal corps requirements and so forth.They do require a million dollar liability insurance policy for the canal corp to do any work or use the dry dock facilitys. T he fees are 900 dollars for the wall and 1100 for the winter dry dock very cheap considering the size of boat.you will need to call the canal and apply for a permit Good luck with her billy
April 17, 2011 at 9:07 am
Jon
Her original name is “Gary” and she was a G tug painted red and green. Very shortly after that she was sold to the Reiss Coal Co and was painted their colors of black and white and re-named “Greenbay”. She spent most of her working life that color. She lost her tall steam stack in the 50’s and was converted to diesel. I include her history in the above note left by myself. Good luck with her. I would have loved to see her stay but am glad she will be saved. I was always partial to the name Gary but liked her in Reiss Black and white which I thought very becoming of her history. Her sister tug was restored in that color. The Tug Reiss and is now in a museum.
April 17, 2011 at 9:38 am
Jon
I’m sorry, I mis-typed. As the Green bay she had a white superstrucure with a green hull. Reiss diamond would have been on her stack.
April 17, 2011 at 9:45 am
Jon
Sister tug “Reiss”
http://tugboatsonline.com/archives/Historic/historic_tugs_html/Gillmore.htm
April 17, 2011 at 10:43 am
tugster
jon–thanks for all the updates on “grouper” and reiss. i too am very glad “grouper” has gotten this new lease on life.
April 19, 2011 at 9:28 pm
Jon
http://ul.bgsu.edu/cgi-bin/xvsl2.cgi
search “GARY” 1912
April 19, 2011 at 9:33 pm
Jon
http://www.dalnet.lib.mi.us/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?e=d-000-00—0shipping–00-0-0-0prompt-10—4—Document—0-1l–1-mi-50—20-help—001-011-1-0gbk-0&a=d&c=shipping&cl=CL1.7.6
tug “GARY” 1912
April 19, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Jon
hear a KAHLENBURG MARINE ENGINE
http://www.wisconsinstories.org/manitowoc/video.cfm
April 19, 2011 at 10:08 pm
tugster
jon–thanks for all the links and comments you’ve been putting up.
April 20, 2011 at 10:42 am
Jon
Some ideas to assist your restoration I hope!
The NY Canal Corporation (Erie Canal)http://www.canals.ny.gov/corporation/index.html
The Great Lakes Towing Company (They made the “Gary”)
http://www.thegreatlakesgroup.com/
April 27, 2011 at 5:21 pm
Angela
Amazing feedback! Thank you all, again…what can I say. We have been busy with the canal and required insurance and making travel arrangements. Alan will be moving her this weekend and will be with her for a week. I will post any news I get from him on her.
This is a historical moment, once again, and we are grateful to be a part of her history in the making.
I am not looking forward to the bureaucracy and the expenditures, but am completely confident that she will shine like never before and roar.
April 27, 2011 at 7:56 pm
tugster
angela– i love it that you and alan have adopted grouper and will make her shine and roar. thank you. to have seen her go to scrap would have been a loss.
May 13, 2011 at 6:34 am
tugbuff
Angela, just came across this blog. We have had an eye on the Grouper for a while as I live 8 miles west of Newark. I live on the NY Barge Canal just above lock 29. My brother and I are pretty boat saavy being raised working on my relatives car ferry in the Thousand Islands. I’m a radio guy by trade but very much at home on commercial boats having done every job on the ferry my whole life.
I’m not sure if we can be any assistance to you in your great effort to bring the tug back to life.
May 17, 2011 at 6:43 am
Jon
Tugster, please contact the new owner & have the tug re-tied. She is now on the west side of the Lyons lock. Her forward line is too tight and the rear too loose causing her to bang into the concrete wall below the rub rail forward. This will cause damage to the hull if not corrected. I would have done it but did not want to trespass. (I would suggest some bumpers or bumper boards) Thanks
May 17, 2011 at 6:46 am
tugster
thanks, jon. i’ll pass this along.
June 22, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Jeff
News paper Archives in Manitowoc and came across alot of information and some old pictures . Heres one Interesting piece of History I Found . In June 29,1953 tug Green Bay had a Boiler Explosion in the outer harbor in manitowoc which blew out the top of the boiler, Engineer Adrian Paska escaped injury as the pieces of steel from the boiler showered down on him. The Green Bay was towed to the manitowoc shipbuilding Inc for repairs. A boiler, similar to the one wrecked, was located on an old tug at Cleveland, Ohio, was brought and trucked to manitowoc shipbuilding and was placed in the green bay and was back in service in three weeks.
August 15, 2011 at 1:27 pm
jeff
Here’s Tug Green Bay 1940’s, Video Footage http://www.flickr.com/photos/28495439@N05/6046153351/
September 14, 2012 at 5:15 pm
Anonymous
Anyone know if the tug is still up for sale? My greatgrand father was the tug green bays captain for many years. If anyone has any info let me know at the email below thanks
tritan84@hotmail.com
September 14, 2012 at 5:41 pm
tugster
dear anon– make an offer. so far as i know, the current owner purchased it a year and a half ago and MIGHT be in over his head. make a specific offer.
September 22, 2014 at 10:23 pm
tim
how’s she doing ?in
just checking in on this beautiful tug.
October 3, 2014 at 10:36 pm
jeff
I just found out that Liel osell passed away in july,He was the tug captain on the tug grouper aka green bay he was 94.
October 18, 2014 at 9:37 pm
Julie Osell Sowers
Yes my father was the Captain Liel Osell of this wonderful tug. I have great memories of being on her with Mac, Bernie, spending days towing allot of ships in a day from the tug office by the old cement dock in Green Bay. My father was an amazing man and I miss him. I have so many fun memories and if anyone has a story to share I would live to hear it. Jlsowers@msn
December 14, 2014 at 5:01 pm
jeff
Julie,Years ago I talked to Liel and ask he if he worked with my grandfather and he said Yes I remember working with your grandfather Cliff G. I know Liel Has a lot of pics. Does he have any Video from the day.Would be awesome to see some the old video from days gone bye. Jeff G. I live in G.B WI.
March 27, 2016 at 4:08 pm
David
Does anyone know where the grouper is now?…i,m still interested but would have to see her before committing to purchase.
March 27, 2016 at 4:11 pm
tugster
She’s in Lyons New York.
March 31, 2016 at 10:26 pm
Richard W Jenkins
Do you have contact info for the current owner?
August 9, 2016 at 12:45 pm
Jon
Aug 2016…sadly she remains tied up and rusting…..still
September 29, 2016 at 12:11 pm
Deborah (Gamble) Wieand
My father, Lester R. Gamble, was the captain of the Green Bay from 1953-69. The senior captain before him was Bill Armstrong. Leil O’Sell followed my dad when her home harbor was moved from Manitowoc WI to Green Bay. I have a full professionally shot album of photos of her of that period when she was a steamer and for some years after she was converted to a Diesel.
As a steam tug, when she was working had , she really thru up sparks and was known to set the pilings of the Manitowoc bridges on fire. When she was “our” tug, she had a green hull, white super-structure with red and black trim. There was a brass bell on top of the Pilot house that I loved to ring, & steam whistles for signaling, three long for the bridge as I remember. In the pilot house were an old style binnacle( painted red & green ,of course) with compass, wheel & throttles, a wall brass clock, a voice tube to yell through to Adrian the engineer and a bunk with a thin pad that smelled of oil and smoke. Augie & Skippy were the deckhands at the time. Our family loved(s) that tug. I wish there was more we could do to bring her back home. Thank you to all those who tried to restore or save her.
May 14, 2018 at 10:07 am
Kevin C
Visited Lyons yesterday. Yes, the vessel is still there. It’s a good thing she was stoutly built and in fresh water, otherwise she may not be with us today. Doesn’t look much different from anything I’ve seen previously (perhaps a little less paint and more rust). The pilothouse is boarded up with newish looking locks on the pilothouse and engine room door. She also had a new tire fender and chain that was recently installed, so her current caretakers are around? The Google street view gives a good look at the boat if anyone is interested.
Are there any plans for historical preservation or documentation of the vessel? She is certainly significant and could go a long way in filling a sort of void in information about the early Great Lakes tugs.
May 14, 2018 at 5:09 pm
tugster
Kevin– Thanks for reading the blog and writing.
May 22, 2018 at 1:44 pm
Lee Rust
Kevin, thanks for your interest and assistance. We’re still trying to find a home for this tug before the Canal Authority drags her away.
August 28, 2019 at 11:35 pm
Jonathan Simmonds
Passed through the lock next to the Lyons drydock where she still sits.. Lockmaster said she was abandoned….again…was some talk about the Canal Corporation Taking her over but it seems more likely that out current Governor may be more interested in sinking it out past NC for a reef….just scuttlebutt…..hope that’s not true…sad to see a piece of history (1912) go to the bottom…would rather see it used as a drydock monument if not seaworthy…..
September 3, 2019 at 10:45 am
Anonymous
Thanks for the update. My dad was her captain when she was the Tug
Green Bay out of Manitowoc, Wi. I’d just like to she her have a dignified end.
September 3, 2019 at 1:19 pm
JONATHAN
how about contacting the City of Greenbay to see if they’d be interested?
September 3, 2019 at 1:31 pm
tugster
Jonathan– THAT is a good suggestion. I will pass it on.