Chatter on the Yahoo tugboat group indicates interest in this vessel, Grouper. I took this foto six weeks ago at Erie Canal Lock 28B in Newark, less than five miles from where I grew up.
My sister-in-law Nancy took this foto yesterday. Thanks Nancy! Six weeks changes a lot.
What I’ve learned is that it’s 1912 vintage built by Charles Dimmer in Cleveland, Ohio. Other vitals include 73′ x 18′. And according to Carl Wayne’s fantastic database, Grouper’s engine generates 300 hp. but I’m guessing that was the original engine. Was that steam?
Formerly, it operated as Alaska for Florida Marine Terminal.
A power cord snaked into the skylight,
and still does, although the icicles have turned back into canal water.
But I can find nothing about Charles Dimmer or the Florida Marine Terminal. And I’m guessing that when I next get up to Newark in summer, Grouper will be gone, like the ice. Anyone know about modifications and dates and current engine? I’m sure the stack is not original.
When I was a kid and I’d see the Canal, I perceived of it as the biggest ditch around, a place to catch catfish. And since we weren’t a boat family, taking a rowboat or canoe across was just a fantasy. I’d no sense of the Canal, then called the Barge Canal, as a conduit to the sixth boro–or Canada, the Midwest. I paid more attention to train crews on the New York Central than crews on canal boats. If I’d have run away in those years, jumping from a low bridge onto a barge would not have been the way. I certainly had no idea that through these waters in 1960, 3.5 million tons of cargo (mostly fuel and grain) was shipped. See this 1961 “canal use” state report. Here’s the entire report. Oh the sights I missed. Who knows how my life would be different if tugs had gotten my attention then?
Note: Credit for the springtime fotos goes to Nancy Van Dorp.











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June 17, 2009 at 2:41 pm
tom garrigan
I grew up with the “Grouper”, in fact had a chance to drive it from Manitowoc, WI to Sheboygan, WI. At that time the Grouper was known as the tug “Green Bay.” It was associated with the Reiss Boat Co. & worked the harbors of Manitowoc, Green Bay, Sheboygan, & Kewaunee in assisting the larger coal carriers that often came into those WI ports. The Green Bay was known as a “G” tug by its design. I really missed this boat & didn’t know what happened to her myself until somehow I found out that she was relegated to the Erie Canal service & renamed. I would love to have a piece of her whenever she gets scrapped, which I suspect may happen in the near future.
Tom Garrigan, Rhinelander,WI
July 1, 2009 at 1:27 pm
jeff
look on youtube my grandfather worked on this tug Green Bay & Tug Reiss Look ON YouTubefor Videos I made with the pic i got from my dad my .
July 1, 2009 at 10:04 pm
tugster
here’s the link for grouper with good paint and at work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27rd-AF4mRg thanks jeff
July 2, 2009 at 4:27 pm
jeff
A 6 cyl -Kahlenberg, 750 hp put in 1957. still in her from what i know, I got pics from 2001 with fresh paint on her . on you tube. My grandfather worked on the tug and tug Reiss from 1945-1965. sorry to see it the way it does, brings back a lot of memories when she was better shape. I’ll Like to Have the HORN! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-rIbVvY5Cs
July 2, 2009 at 10:18 pm
tugster
i saw grouper aka green bay in newark (lock 28 of the canal) about a month ago. she continues to deteriorate; maybe next week i’ll put up some pix i took there in late may 2009. it’s tragic to witness the deterioration and be powerless to intervene!!
July 23, 2009 at 3:13 pm
jeff
Tugster, can i copy pics I’ll give you credit for them? I wanna add them to my Video.
July 23, 2009 at 3:18 pm
tugster
jeff- send me a note to my email with your email and i’ve got more if you want. of course, you may use what is here. the most recent ones i took six weeks ago. email is parrotlect at gmail dot com . . . you know.
July 25, 2009 at 10:29 am
Dave
This ad has been on Scruton for a long time.
http://www.scrutonmarine.com/T2266.htm